Should cyclists pay road tax?

Should cyclists pay road tax?

Over 32,000 people have put their names to an online petition appealing for British cyclists to hold insurance and pay road tax.

The petition’s creator Owen McDermott says: “The public roads used by motor vehicles are becoming unsafe to use due to one particular community that feel they are eligible to cycle on public UK roads.

“Just like having to sit your theory and your practical test to obtain a driving license [sic], Cyclists should have to do the same. What training have they had to use the road safely?

“Insurance, if a cyclist throws him/herself into the back of a stationary motor vehicle… Who’s to blame? Not the cyclist… The driver of the motor vehicle would have to pay their own excess to repair the damages.

“Im [sic] not sure on the percentage of how many cyclists die every year due to cycling on the road but if you stick them back on the path in a cycle lane I’m sure a lot more people will survive.”

Although the title of the petition is “Cyclists to hold insurance to use public UK roads”, a pop-up window linked to from the page expands on this, stating “Cyclists to hold insurance and pay road tax to use public UK roads”

The author may be on thin ice with this, given that road tax doesn’t officially exist.

What do you think about this idea? Is it fair that, as road users, cyclist should hold insurance and pay a tax?

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If this bloke drives like he writes then I'm guessing he's another one of the "I've just nearly hit a cyclist because I wasn't paying attention but it's all their fault because they're cyclists blah blah blah" brigade. Why do we let them steal our oxygen?

As stated above, bring on the £0 "road" tax and I'm already insured with two policies! I have also had advanced driver training and probably had to sit a stricter examination than some older drivers did years ago.

I'd love some better infrastructure though so I'll give him that one. I rode less than 6 miles today. Passed 4 vehicles parked with all four wheels on the shared cycle/foot path, had some fat old woman (blocking the entire pavement with her substantial girth and a suitcase) tell me to get on the road - after she apologised for being in my way, had a driver ignore a give way sign as I rode through a pinch point and then had another bloke who saw this call me a wa&&er because I informed the driver it was my right of way.

Anyone want to sign my petition to stop the world for a second while I get off??

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Most cyclists have third party insurance. If they do not have it on a specific cyclist policy, they would have it if they are a member of a club. However, even failing either of those, personal liability insurance is usually included on house insurance policies, and this only excludes liability for MOTORISED vehicles. Therefore cycles are covered.

Regarding 'road tax' which nobody has paid since the 1930s, I assume this man is referring to the vehicle excise duty which is based on vehicle emissions. Low emission cars do not pay anything. As cycles create no emissions, then our rate would of course be zero, so I would be happy to pay that!

The legal permission is that pedestrians, horses and cyclists have a statutory right to use the roads (cyclists were granted this in the 1800s). However, when the new tangled motor car came around, they were allowed to buy a licence to use our roads. Therefore we are not on their roads, they are on ours.

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As both a cyclist and car driver I already pay road tax so why should I have to pay yet again.  Most of Britain is so bad for cyclists, if as much money was plugged into making the roads safer then maybe more people would cycle and we would have less cars and nits on the road that do not give a ---- about cyclists.  I worry that future generations will not even use a bike because parents are reluctant to take them out as the roads are so unsafe.  I am also a parent who does cycle with my child but I choose carefully when and where I cycle with him.  Also it is the few bad cyclists that give the rest of us a bad name.

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What is mr McDermott trying to achieve by having cyclists paying road tax. Or is he just another one of those ``bitter motorists`` that are jealous of a cyclist encroaching on ``their carriageway`` for free. He needs to get a bike and get a life.

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Although I do think that any road user should have insurance, I wonder how it could be enforced. With a  vehicle or motorcycle there bound by law to display a number plate, if your involved in a road incident and the other party leaves you can take their number plate and report it to the police. What would you do if a cyclist hit your car and dented or scratched it. You wouldn't be able to report it to the police or your insurance company if they simply failed to stop and rode off would you. Would all cyclists have to have a number plate displayed in future? How would the police be able to enforce cyclists having insurance? I think this is an argument that's going to rage on for a long time.

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I'm insured through Cycling Ireland. But as for road tax, what about electric cars and dinky little diesels and farmers? Should they be paying road tax too??

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So will having insurance mean fewer deaths????

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All road users should have insurance, its common sense and not wildly expensive for decent cover for a cyclist. As for road tax, I agree, zero emissions, zero cost, simple.

As for training I actually agree with him. There are a lot of numbs kills out there, earphones in, never aware of what's around them etc. I think maybe the safes cyclists are also car drivers.

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As long as the vehicle excise duty (not road tax) is emission based on the CO emissions of my bike it'll cost the same as many cars already on the road, £0

I'm already insured even though its not compulsory so bring it on

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